to ultimately vanquish those people. we re going to win and we re no longer requesting to have to contend with them or their values. not i think i have a different idea. i want to challenge myself and everyone else, including your viewers, to instead lean in. i think about my faith. i think about the fact that my faith calls me not to shy away from the stranger and to throw stones from afar but to lean in as neighbors to extend grace, to extend curiosity, compassion and what my friend john wood jr. calls patriotic empathy. that s what i m inviting your viewers to do with us on saturday with america talks and into the subsequent national week of conversation to step up boldly together to heal america. bret: well, i hope people listen. we can obviously use a lot of that pearce godwin listen first
at this time. absolutely. as you mentioned, next week is our fourth annual national week of conversation. we are encouraging americans of all background and beliefs to practice courage over this contempt that has become so pervasive and, bret, the be the on sift the food fights that we have gotten so tired of. we have three norms that we will be encouraging, one, of course, is listen with curiosity. number two is speak from your own experience and connect with respect. bret: i almost didn t listen there as i was jumping in, pearce, for the two sides here up on capitol hill, you have got conservatives and liberals, i guess there is a moderate faction but it s not loud why should i listen to the other side they are just wrong. this toxic stew that we are flown derg in is national crisis, capitol hill and