america and other news outlets were pursuing an interview, we didn t know quite why. in january you reported the payoff story. how were you able to nail that story down? well, we had initially before the election reported that the american media which owns t the national enquirer caid karen mcduringal to not speak about her alleged affair and stormy daniels was considering talking but didn t. we considered who might have paid her after the election and last year my colleague said we have to find out who paid stormy so we kept asking around, poking around and eventually heard michael cohen had been the one to pay her and we needed to nail that down and scrapped over the last few months to be able to figure it out. so that story and the follow-up story is now they were partly dependent on anonymous or confidential sources meaning you knew who they were but we don t know who they are. was that important?