hospitals. bill gates actually gives his money away. it s not a profit-generating. it s not using contacts. here, pay peter, now pay paul. now pay peter and now pay paul. that s not me talking, that s doug band. in a memo, and by the way, when i say that s doug band. it s the clintons all over aga again, it s not doug band. he s loyal to bill clinton, so loyal it was maddening at times. he didn t care who hated him. his job was to protect bill clinton and i will say he s done it better than anyone in my life. he was inseparable from bill clinton. when we re saying doug band we re saying bill and hillary clinton.
$64.4 billion. they borrow from peter to pay peter. and gerri is from the fox business network. as weird and awful as that looked it is worse than that. reporter: we give them money, they give us money and it goes back and they are paying $15 billion a year and moving toward profitability you would think they would stop having us give them taxpayer dollars. but that will not happen. shepard: do they borrow on the cheap and sell it back at a higher rate? guest: that is how you do it but the outrage, we give them money, they give it back to us. we give them bailout dollars, they give us back dividends, right? but it keeps going on and on and they are becoming more profitable you would think this would end but it doesn t because they have to keep on paying the dividends. shepard: does it ever end? is it the dividends that . all