scott walker s act basically gave all it basically required workers to recertify their union with a majority vote every year. so the union now has to basically earn its members respect. i can see, kim, this is why the unions fought walker s reform so dramatically because they were worried that if they no longer had government putting them in the cat bird seat in negotiating authority that when union members get a choice, pay dues, don t pay dues, they often say, you know what, i think i won t pay dues. well, and that s why you see, for instance, such a ferocious protest among unions for the movement in recent times some of the states that have been attempting to move to right to work states which also give workers a lot more freedom to not pay dues to a union, for instance. and some of this also gets to what we were talking about this aflcio vote if it happened
g-20 summit, violence. labor movement? this violent incident this week. no prominent liberal speaks out. why? i m a product of the social justice movement for civil rights in the country which was a non-violent movement. those who came out for von violence, violence was visited upon them. they have to be prepared to pay the consequence for being non-violent. in the same way when people break the law, they ve got to go to jail. now, whether the media criticizes them sean: if a tea party member used the n word against a guy that s been selling hot dogs fot e no reports on any major networks. i m not for itjo under any circumstances, so i never condone the n word under any circumstances. sean: they ruined his equipment. the other thing that was mentioned a little earlier that has to behame responded to is te role of unions in the country. in civil rights, child labor laws, workplace safety and overtime pay. sean: was it wrong to say to people you capture work unless you joi
they pay them voluntarily. they have the freedom to do that as well. he points to a lot of progress he says has been made in the state of michigan over the last couple years. jenna: of course that is the argument by republicans. they want to advocate this law. if you look at those on the other side though, and i m looking at a quote from steve cook, president of the michigan education association. he says this. whether the proponents call this rite to work or freedom to work, it is freedom to freeload. many unions say if they don t have people come in to join the unions, pay dues, necessary, unions lose power. unions in their argument protected working conditions and wages for years in this country. this is the big transition. not only state to go through it. we do expect rick snyder at any moment today to sign this legislation into law. we ll take you back to michigan as we hear more. obviously a lot of people on both sides debating this today. rick: we re all over that important stor
there will be blood. neil: everyone should cool that. but is the governor worried about what he unlived? the michigan governor snyder with me now. are you surprised by this, governor? guest: it is good to be with you. i knew this is a divisive issue with a lot of protests before we started considering the bills. this is the right thing to do. it is actually is being pro worker, they have a right to choice and shouldn t they have the choice depending on whether their pay dues? this brings jobs to michigan and we need the jobs. we have a great come back. more and better jobs is good for workers and, actually, good for unions. neil: the union guys come back and say, so, the non-union members who you would force
break the backs of the unions when it comes to state budgets. he wants the worst they can do so to get a raise that keeps the workers up with the cost of living and that s it. and what happens in wisconsin is not going to stay in wisconsin. eight other states are considering eliminating bargaining rights. lose their right to bargain and why would anyone pay dues? pay to pay a union leader who can t do anything for them. plus, libya slips further into chaos. gadhafi gave a mur mering speech. meanwhile, much of eastern libya is in the hands of people calling themselves revolutionaries. we re going to get an update from the region. plus, why would anyone allow college students to be carrying concealed weapons all over campus?