embarrassing prostitution scandal. agents and military people as well hired hookers in the coastal town, allegedly some of the secret service guys refused to pay the prostitute and all hell broke loose. this is troubling on a number of fronts because these guys are in colombia to protect president obama. consorting with prostitutes on the job is unbelievable breach of security. with us is lt. colonel ralph peters author of big new book cain at gettysburg. what i heard this over the weekend, i could hardly believe it secret service has a good reputation, does it not? secret service is a great organization that s done tremendous work over decades. over a century. but, you know, as you see with the military, sometimes a sociopath or a bad leader slips through and you get this sort of thing. so i think you had three factors in play. this is a morally slop y administration. can i tell from you personal experience latin america, has always been regarded as the
bringing him up against charges? why aren t they doing that? well, i think it s time. chairman issa has done a very good job of doing the best he can with the justice department. they have stonewalled and they have been acting guilty since day one. they haven t been providing any documents as people know. in the book we document and show all the connections between eric holder, barack obama, and going back into the clinton era and what their political agenda behind this whole thing was. bill: political agenda, again, being stopping guns from going into mexico because the mexican government. political agenda behind this entire thing was to blame american gun shops for cartel violence in america to put regulations on these gun shops. bill: gets more complicated. into the conspiracy things now not just the hardware thing about it it this was a designed thing to blame gun shops and try to get second amendment rights curtailed. it s not a conspiracy. it s the facts. we have emails
conspiracy or that plan? who is behind that? the justice department. bill: give me a name? who is running this operation. we document in the book the anti-second amendment records of eric holder, barack obama going all the way back to the clinton administration. the main players in fast and furious. burke former u.s. attorney in arizona help craft the clinton assault rifle ban with rahm emanuel. you fast forward that into the year 2010 and gun control legislation at an all-time low for approval in america. people don t want it. so, in this administration, what they do, they go around congress and against the american people and what they want to get their political agenda through. what they did, in this program, is they blamed the gun shops, didn t track the guns into mexico. the goal from the beginning was never to track these guns to act like they kind of lost track at them. like it was a botched operation it false. they never had any plans to track these guns. bill: send the
amendment movement. no. but the goal from the beginning was he force these gun shops in arizona to sell to these under surveillance. they knew they were bad guys and working for the cartels for a year. and then, don t track the guns. they didn t put any tracking devices on the guns. out of 2500 guns, bill, two guns had g.p.s. devices put on them. so you tell me if that shows they wanted to really track these guns? bill: nefariousness from the jump on this. do you believe it will come out? i think that we have a lot of evidence in our book to show it we have the connections between all the political appointees. why there is a coverup, the loyalties between them going back to the clinton administration. the connection between the second amendment being attacked because they were trying to prove that guns from america were going into mexico. bill: all right. provocative, ms. pavlick, thank you. the book is fast and furious. thanks so much. bill: brit hume on the secret servi
going from the u.s.a. to mexico because they were screaming about that. they were screaming about it. bill: that makes sense. you say the attorney general eric holder knew about this sting but he denied it under oath in front of cock, correct? not only has he denied it under oath in front of congress, he has changed his testimony under oath in front of congress. bill: that s perjury if true. how can you prove, you, the author of this book, that he he did know from the conception that these guns were going down there? how you can prove it? look. eric holder in his first testimony in front of congress about fast and furious may 2nd, 2011 claimed he knew about it for a couple of weeks. back pedaled, find out that we have memos in the book addressed directly to eric holder a year, five of them dated july 2010, august 2010. bill: then a second appearance he said yeah yeah yeah now i remember but i didn t remember then. you are saying from the jump before even guns went down he k