all i can say is that tilikum is a good animal and dawn was a great trainer. and i want to point out we are watching video of you with killer whales when you were still working with them. paula, turning back to you. earlier when we spoke to you, you wanted to clarify that this incident took place after the show and you really didn t see anything strange during the show or immediately afterwards, because someone in randi kaye s piece just now said that there was some weird signals before. you didn t see anything that seemed unusual? no. and she walked around the entire area and would have him come up on the rocks that are around the edge where we re sitting. and at one point, they were right in front of us. if i leaned over, i could have touched her and she would have him come up out of the water on his fins and make noises and catch fish and ice and he seemed perfectly fine. that s dawn, the trainer, that we are looking at. i just want to point that out. sorry. go on.
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are watching video of you with killer whales when you were still working with them. paula, turning back to you, earlier when we spoke to you, you wanted to clarify that this incident took place after the show and you really didn t see anything strange during the show or immediately afterwards, because someone in randi kaye s piece just now said there was some weird signals before you didn t see anything that seemed unusual? no. and she walked around the entire area and would have him come up on the rocks that are around the edge where we re sitting. and at one point, they were right in front of us. if i leaned over, could i have touched her and she would have him come up out of the water on his phipps and make notices and catch fish and ice and he seemed perfectly fine. that s dawn, the trainer that we are looking at. i just want to point that out. sorry. go on. and she was very interactive with him and he was with her and she reinforced their affection and give him kisses on the
to you one way and in this case, it is to pull nut water. reporter: no matter what tilikum has done, the orca network believes seaworld will keep him. as the primary breeding male for all seaworld parks, he is worth millions. at a time whales are dying faster than they are being born, tilikum is seaworld s future. randi kaye, cnn, new york. joining us now are paula gillespie. she was there at the park with her family and watching the show with her young daughter when this happened. on the phone, jeffrey ventri. he worked with tilikum. he is now out of the profession. paula, let s start with you. you were there, you were an eyewitness to this. it sounds terrifying. would you describe exactly what happened? happened? happened? happened? we just left the dine with shamu show and went to look at his full body in the observation tank.shamu show and went to loo his full body in the observation tank.
this to happen. tilikum is a great animal and dawn is a great trainer. i m sad it did happen, shocked. yet, tilikum has a history. so were you aware of this history? um, yes, i was aware of the history. and do you think it s surprising that tilikum would attack again? there are two other instances where people have died. do you think this animal should still have access to humans? only the most experienced trainers get to work with tilikum. i m not sure of the exact incident in vancouver and the guy in 1999 apparently jumped over the fence at night and got into the pool with tilikum. it s hard to say whether that was an act of play or aggression. and i wasn t there today. so i can t really tell you what happened today. all i can say is that tilikum is a good animal and dawn was a great trainer. and i want to point out we are watching video of you with killer whales when you were still working with them. paula, turning back to you, earlier when we spoke to you,
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