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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20170710:01:23:00

before, paul told police some guys in a truck tried to follow jennifer home. she had broken her heel and she says somebody was stalking her. it s fine. it s okay with me but we had people stalking us in the past, okay? i don t know what s going on. i believe that s what caused the fire. i believe somebody was threatening us. reporter: so was paul zumot on to something? detectives went to talk to the brothers and, of course, checked to see where both men were the day of the fire. and there was no doubt they were nowhere near the fire. they had alibis. at the time of the fire, we know exactly where both of them were. one of the ghanma was in their cafe and he s on videotape and another was at home depot 20 minutes away. we have videotape and receipts from both of those locations. reporter: so once the ghanma brothers were in the clear, cops do what they always do in cases like this. it s practically police work

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20170710:01:15:00

but of course, it had to be jennifer. and it probably wasn t an accident. as that news sank in, paul began to think about who might have wanted to harm jennifer and came up with some potentially helpful information. two brothers, hisham and tony began ganda. what happened is, he called me and said he was going to kill me. he spoke in arabic. i speak it knfluently. he and jennifer filed restraining orders against both of them. i m scared from the guy. so i know those guys like this. now, yesterday she walked home and she said, hey, somebody probably was stalking me. reporter: had the brothers killed her, too? police listened, and then had

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20170710:01:13:00

confused and exhausted and i want to know what happened. i care less about the house but jennifer s safety. i cannot think anything right now. then, paul s phone rang. it was jennifer s mother who told him she hadn t seen or heard from her daughter. you can see what happened. paul fell to pieces. yeah, i know. i know. i know. i can t find her. they re not telling me anything. reporter: to this point, he told detectives that he had been clinging to the hope that jennifer was with her mother. anywhere, really, but at home. but she wasn t with her mother. wasn t anywhere. and that s when the officer broke this news. i don t know how to tell you this, man, but there s a body in the house that s been burned. and we have no way of knowing who that is.

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20170710:01:56:00

you must have been rather pleased when you heard he was going to testify. i think that s an understatement. i was very, very pleased. more than that, it was a gift, said gillingham, an unexpected opportunity. why? well, the prosecutor had paul right where he wanted him for as long as he wanted him. there were hours of questions, tough questions, baiting questions, questions designed to make paul crack and reveal what gillingham to be a controlling personality and a red hot temper. my plan was to go through how he acted when he was angry. and then ask him questions that he could have no good answers for. for instance, why all those text messages are deleted. and those are questions he could not answer because he had not considered those questions. a after three long days in the hot seat, paul zumot s testimony was finally over. had he persuaded the jurors that he was innocent? do you feel he got a little chippy or arrogant on the stand? i don t think he got

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20170710:01:35:00

quarrel. jennifer sent that text to paul right at the end of the elaborate birthday party she threw for him when she had perhaps 12 hours to live. she was so upset about something that she refused to go to the hookah lounge, walked all the way home on a broken heel texting all the way. jennifer, good, stay away from me. i just got home. paul, i m staying away this final for good. what a way to end my birthday. for jennifer to walk home alone at night with a broken heel and upset, she had to have been i don t even know if i ve ever seen her that mad. but that was the night before. angry messages buzzing back and forth. then, as the cell phone revealed, the pair made love during the night before jennifer s morning text messages again turned red hot angry. the subject seemed to be a debt

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