soul. i really want jesse to survive and to succeed. i m heartbroken he lost his girlfriend. don t you think, though, jesse represents something that he lost his moral compass a long time ago. he has to pay for his choices. maybe. thank you, david isikoff. dr. paul puri, we appreciate you being here. we ll be right back after this. yep! so is your husband off the hook? no. he went out for milk last week and came back with a puppy. hold it. hold it. hold it. at discover, we treat you like you d treat you. get the it card with late payment forgiveness. a quarter million twf music is being streamed. and 900 million dollars are changing hands online. that s why hp built a new kind of server. one that s 80% smaller. uses 89% less energy. and costs 77% less. it s called hp moonshot. and it s giving the internet the room it needs to grow. this&is gonna be big. hp moonshot.
reporter for the new york times and like me a huge breaking bad geek. and dr. paul puri is a psychiatrist in los angeles. he loves breaking bad. doctor, why are we loving this guy? we should hate him by now. we absolutely should, michael. but the thing about it is these are not evil men including walter white, these are flawed men that do bad acts or evil acts. and we all have impulses just like that. and just like within, you know, there s a book that came out a few years ago bad men do what good men dream written by a forensic psychiatrist robert simon that goes into, you know, we all have these certain impulses. only certain people act on them. with that is the fantasy fulfillment in the show of watching something get carried out that we all wonder what if i did that and watching it out. all right. you re really saying that david isikoff wants to break bad, and because he can t, because he s a new york times guy, he s living through walter white, that a fair assessment?
that was a great line. hey, dr. puri, is part of the attraction of someone like david not only that he wants to break bad but that he still wants to see if walter in the next eight episodes is going to turn it around and somehow get back on the straight and narrow? absolutely. i think with all of these guys there s always been something redeeming about them from the very beginning that hooks us. and once we are connected, it s so hard for us to disconnect or give up on them. the same reason a person has trouble letting go of an abusive family member or someone with a drug addiction, it s hard for us to be able to let go on the possibility of them redeeming themselves. david, i came to your times talk seminar. i stood up to ask a question and they cut off the microphone before i could ask it, which is the real reason you ve been summoned to hardball because i m going to ask you what i would ask vince. okay. i ll answer in his voice. do you think that they feel some kind of a