feel sympathetic for him as if the dope was the cause of the money and the cause of his issues when the reality is it wasn t. this had been going on for a long time and the finances prove differently. but what else about this? you have seen the interviews. and we are going to play some clips of these interviews but i m not going to play them all for you again, you have watched them. but if you have any question, go back and watch them. he talks about being paranoid. watch those interviews when he s with dave owen. he doesn t look like he s withdrawing from any drugs. his responses are appropriate. he s not displaying any paranoia. he s smooth. he s focused on the events, focused on trying to get information about the case from law enforcement officers, which is interesting in its own right, why is he so focused on that. and in savanah, where supposedly he was detoxing, he sat down as you heard the testimony with a composite sketch artist and went through the whole process to
staying one step ahead for over a decade, if he was taking that much dope. i would submit to you. just one other lie that i would submit to you is a lie that he s trying to get you to believe to feel sympathetic for him as if the dope was the cause of the money and the cause of his issues when the reality is it wasn t. this had been going on for a long time and the finances prove differently. but what else about this? you ve seen the interviews, and we re going to play some clips of these interviews. i m not going to play them all for you again. you ve watched, but if you have any question, go back and watch them. he talks about being paranoid. watch those interviews when he s with dave owen. he doesn t look like he s withdrawing from any drugs. his responses are appropriate. he s not displaying any paranoia. he s smooth. he s focused on the events. he s focused on trying to get information about the case from law enforcement officers, which is interesting in its own right. w
there on that stand trying to explain what was going on? it s interesting also that in one of the interviews with law enforcement, there were three interviews, june 8th, june 10th, and august 11th before we get to the side of the road that he mentions that paul was a little detective. that s very interesting for him to mention that because you ve heard from marion proctor, maggie s sister that maggie called paul that, the little detective specifically in reference to paul paying attention and trying to keep alec from taking pills. why would he bring that up? that s an interesting thing to bring up because that was what that was in reference to. and what do we know? we know that in may, if we talk
his mouth and the three voices on the tape as paul, alec and maggie. john, let me ask you a question. ask both of you a question. we have all been envisioning the kennel and idea what it looks like based on the video. but now we are seeing this, not the video introduced at trial, but now seeing this. isn t this different than what you envisioned the kennel looked like? i ask that rhetorically, the answer is yes. no one envisioned the kennel to like this. the jurors wait, this is different, how is it different? almost doesn t matter. the fact it s different hurts the prosecution. gillian: very interesting. slice either way. mark, we have to leave it there, please stand by. we ll tap you as needed throughout the hour. thanks so much. my pleasure. john: all right, moving on now, and we are going to be back to the trial in a half hour or so. the growing threat china poses
but wait, this is different, and that helps the defense. the state has the burden of proof. john: let s play about what prosecutor creighton waters said earlier today, when you take a look at what happened there and the potential suspect, it really only comes down to one person, that s alec murdaugh. how he put it. after an exhaustive investigation there is only one person who had the motive, who had the means, who had the opportunity to commit these crimes, and also whose guilty conduct after the crimes portrays him. defendant is a person where his own storm would mean consequences for maggie and paul, and consequences for those who trusted him. and that person is the defendant, richard alexander murdaugh. john: only one person had the motive, means, opportunity, etc., to commit these crimes.