you re defending donald trump. from your view, that makes sense, but what about your responsibility in this? you were part of the campaign. you were around these people. paul mafrnafort, mike flynn, ri gates. why weren t your spidey senses going off? they were. why didn t you do something about it? i did. i went to the candidate directly on mike flynn for six months and told him that i thought this is not a guy who should be around. this is not a guy who should get a significant position. in my last conversation as transition chairman with then-president-elect trump, i pleaded with him not to make mike flynn national security adviser. he said to me at the time, as i write in the book, he said you just don t like him. i said i don t like him because he s going to get you in trouble. he thought it was a personal ax to grind. and i did do those things in terms of getting involved. i never even met rick gates during the campaign. so i didn t have anything to say on him.
loyal to trump. they all think the new york investigation is a way to get to trump, and that none would be surprised if cohen did break the law. a source who has worked closely with cohen for ten years tells katy, michael might believe he won t flip on the president, but he will. it s one thing to be loyal when you re taking shots at the press. it s another to be loyal to a guy who hasn t been loyal to you when it s going to ruin your family. when asked if the white house is worried that cohen would flip, a staffer said, of course, just look how they re portraying him. trying to make him look like paul mafrnafort, some low-level staffer. people may debate whether cohen flips but no one says that cohen absolutely did not do anything wrong. cohen has not been charged with a crime and denies any wrongdoing. donny, you know michael cohen pretty well. we ve had this conversation about when the question is put to you, it s go to jail for 20 years or see your kids grow up? we speak regularl