debater but not on the national stage. she did some debates that went on and on and on as we remember. she s so much more practiced on this big debate stage but he s been in the senate a long time. i think it will be an interesting evening and martin o malley and others will want to have fireworks. thank you. joining me now, the political commentary even though their names start with b. peter bia nart and paul democratic strategist donna brazil and cnn chief of political analyst gloria borger. peter, what are you expecting for tomorrow? for hillary clinton what constitutes a win in this debate? she s had a very bad summer but the good news is people have forgotten how good a debater she is. she s a very good debater. much better debater than barack obama during much of the cycle in 2007, 2008 because she s well