money payment made to stormy daniels who claimed she slept with trump. trump responded on his social media site saying it happened a long time ago and he relied on his counsel s advice. this also comes along with his troubles in georgia. paul charleston joins us with more. what does the convening of a grand jury mean where the daniels investigation is? it means what was once old is now new. this means the district attorney in manhattan has a new interest in this case going back, as you say, to 2016 and the election that took place then. it means they re bringing forward witnesses in attempting
pence. that s a similar situation. it would be easy to a add that additional work under hur s plate. that seems a more reasonable approach than getting a new special counsel. paul, i m wondering how you reacted when you heard this latest find. away did you think? i thought about the prosecutors who were involved in the trump case. if you think of this as a two-step process, the special counsel appointed to look into the trump investigation, the trump issues, it s going to look at just the facts and the law that make the determination as to whether or not former president trump should be prosecuted. but then the decision ges on to merrick garland. he has to try to find a way if he thinks a prosecution is appropriate to distinguish between all that has happened with president biden and vice president pence. that s a difficult task. lawyers, people who are fluent
their homes and other locations. it s raising questions about how classified materials are handled overall. you have trump, pence, biden. the only thing i think you ll find at my house is chick-fil-a bags on the flo. the bottom line, i don t know how this happened. with feed to get to the pot of it. with us now to talk about this is justice and intelligence correspondent ken dilanian, washington correspondent yamiche alcindor, and paul charleston, former u.s. attorney. away more do we know about the situation with mike pence s house? the vice president s lawyer said that a small number of documents with classification markings were found inside four boxes that had been packed inadvertently after pence left the vice presidency. he ordered this search out of an abundance of caution after the biden revelations and pence said he was confident he retained no
their brief. they haven t demonstrated that any of the classified documents fell into the wrong hands while at mar-a-lago. what the fbi would say is that s exactly the thing they need to investigate. she did offer a small window of compromise in the sense of, explaining that her ruling, she believes, allows the intelligence community to continue its damage assessment into whether national security has been compromised in the mishandling of the documents and the fbi can assist in that investigation and the fbi can ask about the documents, who had access to them, where they went but they cannot use the contents in the criminal investigation. and the doj flatly disagrees with almost all aspects of this ruling which is why we are expecting an appeal today, andrea. an appeal to the 11th circuit. paul, one issue that comes to mind is if the fbi follows the
andrea, in her instructions to the special master, the first thing she tells the special master to do in plain language is to review the documents that the government says it seized here and to verify that those are, in fact, documents that were seized. she suggests the special master may even want to get a sworn statement from the government that these are all documents that were collected by the government. that issue has never been before this court. it wasn t an issue until her order put it out there as an issue. this is a judge who has moved from fair and impartial to someone who is questioning the very credibility of the prosecutors and the agent who has supplied information under oath, andrea. that is extraordinary. just briefly, paul, the delay, if this goes to the 11th circuit, then if the justice