defense attorney whose clients have included gene got ti, brother of teflon don john gotti. and the supervisor of some of the justice department s most important cases. and you may remember ed from the movie good fellas in which he played himself. welcome to both of you. has the mob s influence been diminished? is this the mob 10 years ago, 15 years ago, 20 years ago? has it evolved in any way? i think it s evolved devolved. back in the day when you had john gotti and paul castel lan owe and people like that. now there s a structure. there are many people considered bosses who are represented by prosecutors because they re cooperating. i can tell you about that. it s not the same mob at all in my judgment. i think the subject matter of these indictments really tells the story. there s some mention of the longshoreman s association union, and there s another union, the concrete workers union, but these are very, very