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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 09:10:00

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 09:42:00

rays live in girlfriend, patty, made it clear that she was not giving up either. i can t make any sense of any of it either. one day it might be one scenario, one day it might be the other, but i have never given up hope. it helps me go on. but hope, and the hard facts did not seem to go together. investigators had nobody, and precious, little evidence. and they re trophy find? the battered hard drive, was

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 09:05:00

person was. it was what they did that counted. in the spring of 2005, everything seemed to be going ray gricar s way. he was in love. after two divorces, he had moved in with his longtime girlfriend, patty. and he seemed happy. i think for both of us, we finally found our soulmate, we found the person who was perfect. investigators say that he had no health problems, no money worries and he was close to his only child, 27 year old laura. she lived in washington state at the time. but the two stayed in touch by phone. i spoke to my dad often, i would say 3 to 4 times a week we were in pretty regular contact. in that spring of 2005 he was 59, just eight months away from retirement. and he was ready for it, he was already starting to cut back on his workload. we were going to drive

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 09:06:00

across the country, and take our time. visit the national parks and end up on the west coast to visit his daughter. the trip never happened, on april 14th, laura had a conversation with her father that she will never forget. the conversation was, hey dad just called to say hi and i love you. i said i have this exam and he said, you know i love you too, and i m sure you re gonna do great on that exam you are always do. you re just like your mom. the next day, april 15th, ray woke up and told pattie that he was going to play hooky. she wasn t surprised, he had done it before. i said it s time to get up, and he said i don t think i m gonna go to work today, i think a minute take the day off. i said fine good for you. patty went to work, she was a clerk in ray s office and he called around 11:30 that morning. he said that he had taken his fun little mini first spin on the country roads near their home. he often did, that he like to

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 09:33:00

but they came up empty, and when they canvas nearby train and bus stations to see if anyone matching the couples descriptions had left town, they came up empty again. so they began asking, how likely was it that ray gricar, stand out da, a guy who had seemed happy and love at last had run off with a woman? raise nephew, tony, did not buy it. he wasn t married, so what would the point be with running off with a mystery woman? and perhaps, not unexpectedly, ray s live in girlfriend did not buy it either. i know every did not want to be in this relationship with me, he would tell me. i know that. as investigators developed a lead, they too came to believe that ray was not romancing the missing woman. it did not jive with what they were hearing. and what they were hearing was plenty mysterious. where they re multiple witnesses to gricar and this woman? there were people on the street of shops that saw ray, with this lady. walking together, talking.

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