understanding what made them tick. >> no matter who retained him or what they wanted him to say, he would tell you what he really thought. i'm sure you noticed that about him. >> i did. >> my name is dr. steven pitt. >> i interviewed steve pitt in 2016, for a vireport on the 20t anniversary of the ramsey case. >> i gave you some good answers, come on. >> three of them, yeah. >> a sharp guy with a big personality, and a sense of humor to match. >> god, that was so good the way you did that. >> thank you. >> through that, we got to know one another. >> when i met him and he sort of said to me, let's be friends, i'll come to los angeles and we'll hang out. i thought, absolutely. >> he could get anybody's story, but more importantly, he was interested in everybody and their story. >> he was also interested in crime and criminals. >> he read a lot of history about cereal killers. i think he thought his skills were well hesuited to that area