pretty soon and we should learn more over the next 24 to 48 hours as the grandparents have said that they will make themselves and the two boys, chase and cole, available to talk about the last week, and their terrible ordeal. john? victor, we re wondering here, how do you explain to a 2-year-old and 4-year-old what s gone on? it s got to be so difficult. victor blackwell live for us in tampa. as victor said, it was cnn s patrick oppmann who first found the family in havana. he s in havana for us this morning. this is how we started our search for joshua and sharyn hakken. right now we re heading out to the marina hemingway, one of the larger marinas in cuba, where a lot of foreigners go to keep their boats here and where they stay when they re coming to cuba. to get past the marina security it helps to keep your camera out of view. the guards soon tell me to leave. we re being bothered now by the security they re asking us to leave. [ speaking spanish ]