south health infrastructure. the case of south korea, and i this with colleagues from south korea, it was after they colleagues from south korea, it was after they had a bad experience with something after they had a bad experience with something and they wanted beat things something and they wanted beat things up and they did put up in the case of things up and they did put up in the case of germany, they use base to be able to case of germany, they use base to be able to do case of germany, they use base to be able to do that. absent either public able to do that. absent either public investment over some period of time, public investment over some period of time, you public investment over some period of time, you cannotjust switch public investment over some period of time, you cannot just switch this on at of time, you cannot just switch this on at short of time, you cannot just switch this on at short notice or an industrial base on at short notice or
problems coming across, or tasks. you don t sense that this president either does that and that he is engaged at the level that other presidents have been. i heard mick mulvaney the chief of staff this morning describing as some of that executive time him preparing for upcoming meetings, debriefing after past meetings, using his time wisely. patrick, what are your thoughts on this? i think that s pretty different than what a president usually does. usually, you have staff who does the preparation. they sit down, they give the president certainly briefing books to read. we know the president doesn t actually read a lot of those books. and the reality is that, you know, he s spending a lot of time watching television and doing things, you know remember look, during the shutdown, this was the longest government shutdown in history. at the same time, you had his intelligence chiefs getting ready to go to capitol hill and testify recently and basically saying that they had different
about. they were tantalizingly close on the question of money. and that seems imminently fixable. there is not that much money involved. if you have another remember, the shutdown cost us $3 billion, if you had put that $3 billion in you could have solved all of these problems and agreed on some barriers and we would be talking about something more serious and more important to the long range hopes of the country. let me make one other point before you invite patrick in. that is the second issue that s riz benn the number of beds, that s a legitimate issue for the democrats to raise but do they really want these talks to fail over the beds? how many beds that i.c.e. has? that seems to be inviting a view in the public that the democrats would share a lot of responsibility, this thing would whip around and they would share a lot of responsibility for any shut down. i want your take on that, patrick. because we all recall last time around multiple polls showed most americans were blam
use to get. and mulvaney this morning seemed to be making pretty clear that like if they go too far with this, you know, shutdown is absolutely on the table. but there really david is right. i mean, they really are in some kind of risk of overreaching here if they go too far. i spoke with congressman john gare mendy a democrat earlier this evening. he said not one person, any lawmaker has an appetite for another shutdown. and house speaker nancy pelosi said this week republicans wouldn t dare to start another shutdown. she said i have a too hot to handle club. and this is a too hot to handle issue. david do you agree with that? i think it is too hot to handle. i think patrick and i are in fundamental agreement, that the democrats could overreach. i might point out this comes at the end of week they have not had a good week. look at what happened in