thanks again and best wishes. guest: thank you for you seice and exampleor all of us. host: i have enjoyed it. .. guest: she was a cocktail waitress, among other jobs, 21, 22 years old in oklahoma who was murdered i december of 1981. whapeton murdered ia very, very brutal episodes, and it took the police in adel five years to solve her crime or they thought they saw that. they got the wro guys, and they convicted the wrong guys and sent them to prison, sent one to death row. ron volumes and went to death row. he had never met her. and he spent 11 years in prison and was exonerated tenears ago, 1999, almost ten years exactly what he spent a total of 12 years in prison for the murder of deborah cter and had never met her. host: who was ron williamson? guest: ron williamson was the man i had never met, never heard of him. he was one of the first big notorious dna exoneration is in the late 90 s. amendment hymn when i read his obituary, so i never got to see him obvious