endured by clarence thomas. her testimony was not only jaw dropping for its time, but sparked a national conversation about sexual harassment overall. especially in the workplace. despite decades of awareness, historyitself in 2018 when dr. christine ford testified before the same committee with allegations of sexual assault against then supreme court nominee brett kavanaugh. kavanaugh ultimately confirmed by the senate and seated. tomorrow, a brand-new podcast titled because of anita will launch, breaking down the impact of hill and dr. blase ford s testimony. how their testimony affected the american people and american politics. focusing on what has changed and what must change. with me now is cindy levy, cohost of the new podcast, also the cofounder of the meteor. it s so good to see you. talktuse about how this all came together and why it felt important to connect the dots between these two women and their testimonies.
well, i think first of all, the dots are not that hard to connect, right? i think there s this really powerful passage in professor hill s new book where she actually writes about being in a hotel room and watching dr. ford s testimony 27 years after her own and kind of feeling like, oh, i think we have been here before, for all the reasons you detail, the cases are so similar, and i think for so many of us, at least those of us who are also old enough to remember 1991 and how kind of seismic that was, there was a familiarity about the process, and coming up on 30 years after 1991, which as you said, you know, had some really powerful positive ripple effects in terms of the awareness and discussion around sexual harassment and gender violence more broadly. coming up on 30 years, it really felt like the right time to ask, okay, so we talk about this a lot more and we have just been through a sort of rerun of it, how well are we doing at actually trying to change the situation so that