supposed to be used with budget bills. enter 63-year-old allen frumin, the senate parliamentarian. in theory it is frumin who decides whether a given item in a health care reconciliation bill effects health care and must be stricken from the bill. shepard: allen frumined suddenly the most powerful man in d.c. some are describing him that way. we spoke with c-span former scholar in residence who has known frumin for years and who offered this warning. don t blame him for what happens because he is the person of great integrity and very technically oriented. very judicious. he is looks at what is put in front of him and gauges the impact based upon the senate s rules and precedents and practices. she went on to ad, shep, and this is really the highest discount pays is he not a party hack. shepard: he is not the final authority in the senate either. no.
which would impact the budget and does not. and therefore have to be stricken. long time associates say frewman would rule conscientiously. he doesn t do it from policy. he has made democratic senators and republican senators very angry in the past. and he is not a party hack. under the byrd rule named after robert byrd in not directly related to the budget, an abortion provision, let s say, a lawmaker can motion for that item to be stricken and parliamentarian s ruling will be sought. if his ruling is disputed it may proceed to the president of the senate which is now vice president joe biden. the parliamentarian only can advise. it is the vice president who rules. but i will say that not sense hubert humphrey have i seen a vice president try to play that kind of role in the senate. if mr. biden yoferls frewman, a senator can apill but a biden
which would impact the budget and does not. and therefore have to be stricken. long time associates say frewman would rule conscientiously. he doesn t do it from policy. he has made democratic senators and republican senators very angry in the past. and he is not a party hack. under the byrd rule named after robert byrd in not directly related to the budget, an abortion provision, let s say, a lawmaker can motion for that item to be stricken and parliamentarian s ruling will be sought. if his ruling is disputed it may proceed to the president of the senate which is now vice president joe biden. the parliamentarian only can advise. it is the vice president who rules. but i will say that not sense hubert humphrey have i seen a vice president try to play that kind of role in the senate. if mr. biden yoferls frewman, a senator can apill but a biden