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ukraine. lev parnas would have that kind of visibility, in parts ayou highlighted, because he was literally at the table when rudy giuliani had a pivotal conversation with an aide to the president of ukraine, yermak and, according to giuliani himself, pressured the ukrainian government to take several steps. parnas is there. he s a witness. because he is under indictment in new york, he is likely reluctant to say anything to congress under oath because he wouldn t want to make his criminal case worse. it s likely that his lawyers are trying to get some level of immunity from congress so he would have some way of potentially shielding himself from anything he says being used against him in the southern district of new york. it s very much tbd if you are able to secure such immunity and if congress will offer it. then there s piece in the washington post, about the

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