then you and then change topics. one thing you mentioned is, sorry, you said the united states will continue sorry, the united states will continue to impose costs on wagner or its successor. is there any indication right now that wagner is actually standing up a successor organization? i think i said or successor if any. we have noted the announcements by the ministry of defense that wagner forces are supposed to be absorbed into the ministry of defense. we don t have any assessment of what will happen to the wagner group, either in ukraine or elsewhere and the world, but whether it s wagner or whether it s a successor or any other organization that conducts the activities that wagner has conducted to destabilize those we will hold them accountable. i don t have any assessments at this time. there are media reports that the biden administration had intelligence about the mutiny, whatever you call it, since mid june. is that correct, and also if that s true, why didn
the development of the wagner movement towards moscow before it started. as i think i mentioned to kelly, the dispute and the tension between wagner and the russian ministry of defense was widely known. rolling towards moscow. all the tension was public. i m not going to talk about intelligence matters. thank you for doing. what should we call what transpired over the weekend? is it a mutiny, coun, counter rebellion? we are not slapping a bumper sticker on it. the u.s. assessment, was the objective to threaten the kremlin or putin? was it ever the wagner group s intent to directly target putin or the kremlin? i would let the parties peek for themselves in terms of what