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Average person couldnt have done. He was a very articulate person even though hes not known generally for that and hes a very likable person and a decent person. And eventually he was appointed to the court of appeals to for three years after i had been appointed. And so we find ourselves being often competitors to megatrends. We have conversation about it. Kind of hard to do your regular work without knowing what is going on here. And so we agree to it. Each of us agreed to tell the other one if we heard anything about the nomination. Our opportunity to get the job. So about three or four days after we had that conversation, the friday after text giving, president ford called me up. My secretary was not there. Explain the was going to nominate me. Was very pleased and told himself. He talked for a minute and then he said were going to announce this about 5 00 this afternoon here in washington. He said i asked you not to tell anybody about it. I would like to, mr. President , but i hav

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