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To 10 years is tossed around. [inaudible] does that fall short of what advocates are hoping for and looking for from the president . Yes. [laughter] well, i mean, i think you know most of us, look, daca which was done, was a tremendous success both in terms of helping real people and as a little move in a tough election season, you know, it was based on the dream act which had been defeated in a close vote months earlier, actually in late 2010 in the lameduck session. We think the senate bill which passed on a bipartisan bill basis would be a good template to use for, has bipartisan support, very clear criteria, who would qualify for legal status. But that would be a good basis. It looks unlikely that thats going to happen, but i think the administration should be well aware that if it goes small its going to get as much grief from republicans as if it goes big. Into the goes big its going to get a lot more love from Immigration Reform movement, the Latino Committee and other constitue

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