yeah, it does. i mean, very proud to be an american. i m very proud have been a soldier and i m very proud of my kids and i m very proud of any young man or woman that s willing to do this and service the nation and all of america should be proud. eric: general, the families mourning and grieving but there s also anger, we have to recognize that. u.s. marine lance corporal kareem nikoi from california, he was one of the 13. his father criticized the president, criticized military leaders. he said they sent my son over there as a paper pusher and he was facing the taliban. when does anger fade? does it ever? is does grief overwhelm that. what do you say to parents who face this, is that what happens in war? well, first of all, the parents first of all, eric, the emotions of the parents are understandable. they re going to have that emotion. i will have to change the story a little bit. as a national security guy, when
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politically viable that is. one of the things is that democrats and republicans like to extent of 71%, they believe there should be witnesses called before the senate, and interestingly one ofschumer cald for is michael duffy. who is that? excuse me, mark sandy was mark duffy s predecessor at omb. mark duffy keeps the paper flowing, he is the one that wrote the e-mail that said let s take this offline and finally it s the e-mail that joyce is referring to. he is the paper pusher, but a very senior person at omb. he coincidentally released it 91 minutes after the phone call and he was coincidentally installed
lady be weighing in on a national security adviser even if she is a paper pusher? a couple points. one on jen s point about definition. because melania trump is more reserved than many of her predecessors, everything she does in the public has more weight in defining whatever you may view as her, you know, brand, you if you will. here, i suspect that the public aspect of this was partly, i don t want to say to compensate, but because this was borne out of problems at a staff level, three different people, the chief of staff, general mattis, the first lady, herself, had all had problems with this same person, and their staffs had had problems. realize, i ve been a principal, you re loyal to your people. and i think that there may have been, while i wouldn t have done it this way, may have been some
really the person running the process. they re overseeing the meetings and the situation room. they re really kind of a senior staffer moving paper around. so the fact that this is the hill melania trump decided to fight on is strange. i would also say that on the double-edged sword front which i think is a good point, the drawbacks for melania are that the way she s allowing herself to be defined are on a strange choice of a jacket that she wore on a trip. that was in poor taste. a strange outfit in egypt or some people liked it. an anti-bullying campaign that people see as ironic and not in a good way. and now she s kind of publicly calling for the firing and successfully, i guess, of an official who was really a senior paper pusher. so it s strange. most first ladies, michelle obama, for example, hillary clinton, first lady, you know, laura bush, they define their role on their own terms and she s really allowing this to be defined in a way that s not advantageous to her. ken, i m