The dni and the rest of the National Security establishment . A question a lot of people are asking this hour. Were going to take you through the much balihooed memo release, what it means for the russia investigation and discuss potential resignations or firings of senior d. O. J. Or fbi leadership. Lets get right to it with our experts. Jeremy bash, former Chief Of Staff at both the cia and pentagon. Now an msnbc National Security analyst. Matt miller, former chief spokesman for the Justice Department in the Obama Administration, now an msnbc justice and security analyst. Chuck rosenberg, a former u. S. Attorney who has worked on the staffs of both Robert Mueller and james comey at the fbi and is now an msnbc contributor. And with us onset, nbcs ken delanian and republican strategist Steve Schmidt. Jeremy bash, let me start with you on this idea that carter
page, who we know was first surveilled in 2013, at least two to three years before he ended up in the trump orbit and years befo
you know, well, in particular, one, also that the fbi wasn t working with this multiprofessor named joseph massoud who made a contribution to george p papadopoul papadopoulos. what does it say about delorean? steele? it s our understanding the ig isn t going to say that the fbi shouldn t, you know, have used this political research. but i think what will come out is that, you know you know, the way that steele was portrayed in this application, this warrant, you know, this surveillance application was misleading. some of the information was just flat out wrong. adam, stick around, if you will. i want to bring in jeffrey toobin.
the origins of the russia probe. right, so here s what s going on. as we know, the president has ordered a review, what led up to it, some of the tactics used by the fbi and intelligence community. georges pop do that his met with australian s top diplomat, and it really is what set off this entire investigation, and the collusion investigation where p papadopoul papadopoulos, and they re wondering what the the president asked the australians
for the report. some are saying this thing is going to be a dud. it is amazing of people use of what s going to be in the report. to the best of my knowledge, we never heard of mueller s voices. it was a conspiracy indictment without a conspiracy charge. the language of that indictment tracks our ordinary conspiracy indictment. there are a couple of data points. if people would go back to august 2018 and read the george papadopoul papadopoulos sentence memo. it says papadopoulos lied about his contacts with russians on dirt with hillary clinton and his own outreach on behalf of the campaign. that s collusion right there. and the final data point, you got roger stone talking about look, he s cooperating and colluding with a senior trump campaign official.
if you step back for a second and look at the amazing story, paul manafort is the former campaign chair. rick gates is his deputy campaign chair. sarah huckabee sanders is the white house press coms director who is talking to robert mueller. this is not just george papadopoul papadopoulos, this is the inner nexus of donald trump s administration that is talking to robert mueller or robert mueller believes that that conversation can lead to useful information in his ongoing case and hopefully one day we ll figure out what s in his filing. nobody knows anything but robert mueller seems to know everything. the fact that we go to spicer, gates, bannon, and michael cohen. once he heals and hopefully has safety for his life. that goes to show you that this is not a deep-state conspiracy.