the democratic world, looking at how progress has been halted so greatly for russia, how the ukrainians have fought back, one would have to think that china is rethinking some of its closeness with russia at this point. let s go live to hong kong now and discuss this further with iris pang chief economist for greater china at ing wholesale banking. welcome to the programme. i hope you were able to hear that viewpoint from the united states. give us your take on these latest developments, the united states saying that china has been approached by russia asking for further help. i think, whether russia talks to china is not really that important. i think what is important. i think what is important is the result. what