he s not speaking on the ingram angle tonight, can t get them on the line and santa clara county supervisor dave said in general, ice doesn t show up to take custody in a timely mandatory avoid release into the community.y. he also won t talk to us. santa clara city councilwoman pam foley, who is district includes a neighborhood where larson was killed, had nothing to add beyond being deeply saddened by larson s death. she declined to appear on the show. and finally, gutierrez, executive director of theo services immigrant rights and education network, in california, she says ice cooperation would have a chilling effect on illegals coming forward to report crimes. what? she likewise refused to appear tonight. now, here to react. claude arnold, former special agent in charge of ice in los angeles.