now. poppy? right, they were trying to figure out last week what does reasonable doubt actually mean and that s the crux of all of it, right? thanks for the reporting. exactly. shan wu is back with me. i should note you formerly represented rick gates, manafort s long time associate until he decided to plea. let s talk about the jury working quietly right now, we haven t heard a lot from them, just the two notes. what does that signal to you? as a former prosecutor in my prosecutor days, i was always pleased if the jury has been working quietly for a while. initially i thought the first question about reasonable doubt might imply they were having disagreements very quickly. i ve changed my mind because they were quiet on friday and are working pain stayingly as we just heard. i think that s probably a good sign for the prosecution. i understand the defense team s