Death is a horror. But if you look at a real controversy like katrina, and you look at the tremendous hundreds and hundreds of people that died, and you look at what happened here with really a storm that was just totally overbearing, nobodys ever seen anything like this, what is your death count as of this moment, 17 . 16. 16 people certified. 16 people versus in the thousands. You can be very proud of all of your people, all of our people working together. 16 versus literally thousands of people. A source close to this white house told me today that the president s delayed reaction to the crisis in puerto rico was a combination of the president s waning interest in hurricane response after hurricanes harvey and irma and a general disregard for that which takes place off the main land and in a place where he doesnt have a lot of political support. Joining our panel today, new york city, counsel speaker melissa mrarito, elise jordan i an msnbc political contributor. And with us from wa