to as well. but you have to believe that north korea would be willing to give up its nuclear program, the one thing that s given it any power and prestige over the past several years. why on earth would kim jong-un give up his nuclear program and be left with, frankly, nothing? it s a good question. i don t know if he will. i think what joe was talking about with the iran nuclear deal and obama is actually a fairly good reflection point in parallel to look at this. i went back and read some of the reporting there. first of all, obama in 2007 announced that he would agree to meet without preconditions by accident. it s a funny story from the campaign. he had meant that as a policy condition, but he said it and it polled well and he stuck to it. in reality, he never met with leaders without preconditions. iran was something that was negotiated over the course of, you could say four, five, six years. they had back-channel negotiations, then the p5 plus
he as well as the chinese foreign minister have been gone since last tuesday. lavrov emerged as one of the major obstacles. in the intervening days he sided with iran russia putin as well siding with iran against the u.s. on the whole issue of the sale of ballistic missiles and other conventional weapons. that was the first division we ve seen publicly in the partners at the talks, the so-called p5 plus 1, the five members of the u.n. security council plus germany and also a very important player here is the european union, so as we saw last night they went until ten after 12:00 right after midnight, still meeting here and then john kerry after going to church today came back here the french foreign minister fabius is here. everyone is waiting for the russian to come and gather and look over what was agreed to
states congress the israeli prime minister primarily focused his speech on a proposed deal on the table between iran and what are called the p5 plus 1, the five permanent members of the unsecurity council plus germany. the prime minister made a few allegations about iran s nuclear programs. let s check the facts. tom foreman is joining us together with david albright a former u.n. nuclear weapons inspector. tom, break it all down for us. wolf one of the chief complaints of the prime minister is just that that this proposal really does not dismantle the nuclear capability for iran. listen. not a single nuclear facility would be demolished. thousands of centrifuges used to enrich uranium would be left spinning. thousands more would be temporarily disconnected but not destroyed. because iran s nuclear program would be left largely intact iran s breakout time would be
they have to make sure that they are making their own assessments about what they need to do to protect themselves. and we respect that and i ve said that consistently to the prime minister. but ultimately, it is my view from a tactical perspective that we have to test out this proposition, it will make us stronger internationally. and it may possibly lead to a deal that we ll have to show to the world, in fact, assures us that iran s not getting a nuclear weapon. it s not as if there s going to a lot of capacity to hide the ball here. we re going to be able to make an assessment because this will be subject to the p5-plus-1 and the international community looking at the details of every aspect of a potential final deal. and we re consulting with all our friends, including israel in terms of what would that will
do have to test is the possibility that we can resolve this issue diplomatically. and that is the deal that at the first stages we have been able to get done in geneva, thanks to some extraordinary work by john kerry and his counterparts in the p5-plus-1. so let s look exactly what we ve done. for the first time in over a decade, we have halted advances in the iranian nuclear program. we have not only made sure that in natanz that they have to stop adding additional centrifuges, we ve also said they ve got to the roll back their 208% advanced enrichment. for how much? down to zero. so you remember when prime minister netanyahu made his presentation before the united nations last year. the cartoon with the red line?