involved in this investigation probably don t want it to. right. and i guess in that sense john dean, this could be all right, well, if we don t see mueller we get this. although i don t know, i can t imagine at this point we re not going to see mueller in some way, shape or form. but do you think they could find something new, john, or are you concerned? and by the way, i want to make it clear, chairman nadler made it clear to me this is an initial list of 81. so there s going to be more lists which actually may be different topics and maybe new topics. but so far this seems to be more of what we ve seen. i think we ll learn publicly a lot of new information. we ll put we have skel tann information right now, erin. and this will put flesh on it and we ll begin to see a bigger picture of what s going on here in this administration. so i think this is very important. i can t it s been decades since the house judiciary committee has really gotten down into this kind of oversight
important. i can t it s been decades since the house judiciary committee has really gotten down into this kind of oversight investigation. and with this president it s very important. in fact, the democrats won the congress on the mandate that this was a president that needed to be checked and balanced. so they re doing exactly what they were sent to washington to do. so juliette, you ve been calling this new phase, the 81 phase as i m going to call it tonight, you ve been calling it s bloodline scenario. what do you mean by that? so this is the first sort of public reckoning potentially for the children. it s been noted all day that ivanka trump is not on the list, although we think she might be. but i ve always worried i think publicly, not that donald trump s reactions have been anything but tame so far, but to the extent that the children are on the list, the sons excuse me, are on the list-k a, and jared kushner and they are not protected by the olc memo saying
serve as a check and balance on an out of control executive branch we take that responsibility seriously. however, we re not going to over investigate, we re not going to overreach. we re going to make sure we focus on the issues of importance to the american penal. that s why elijah cummings is having a hearing this week on how we can lower the high cost of prescription drugs. that s why the chair of ways and means is having a hearing on protecting people with pre-existing conditions. i think congressman cummings is starting an oversight investigation on security clearances, that seem to have some connection to the mueller probe. as i mentioned, we are going to take that responsibility seriously. i think the american people want to see checks and balances we are a separate and co-equal branch of government which don t work for donald trump. we work for the american people. let me ask you this i m going to put up a tweet of yours. you have been referring to the president not as t
happen without a subpoena. he was not being compelled. that was something he was looking forward to doing. obviously we ve been reporting for the past 24 hours about the fact his family feels intimidated and other things. so, you know, my main question at this stage is what is it exactly the senate intelligence committee wants from michael cohen that he s not interested in providing that he wouldn t have had to perhaps deal with it sinain the context of the oversight investigation. those are the questions we ll be pulling on here in the coming hours. one more question here really quickly. does this increase the likelihood that a house committee now also issues a separate subpoena? i only ask that question because we know the upper chamber is controlled by republicans. one might assume they would want this to be a closed door session. lower chamber controlled by democrats, one might assume they would want it to be a public hearing. does this subpoena increase the likelihood that a hou
hearing, by maybe as early as mid-february. or early march. so i think that they will be a little careful there. but the oversight is very concerning. i think to the trump administration. and one of the big investigations that no one is talking about is probably going to be into hud. i think there s been a lot of talk that doesn t make it into the news cycle. but i think that oversight investigation could be very damaging to this administration. speaking of the news cycle, let s talk about what happened yesterday with jim mattis announcing his sudden not the stock market. not that one. not the shutdown. no, no, not that one. jim mattis announcing his resignation. this white house already fractured. a lot of top key cabinet posts even within the white house, positions that have not been filled. vacancies that need to be filled. how do you see mattis quitting affecting an already fractured white house staff? i think it just shakes it to its core.