now they re fighting back with an appeal. they are. they re fighting back on what could be a particularly important case because in this case, the white house and the president s lawyers lost this battle. a federal judge, d.c. district court judge, said that congress does have an oversight interest. they have a right to demand these documents and this accounting firm does in fact have to turn them over. this appeal could halt that order, which, you know, at the moment, they have six days. this accounting firm has six days to give over the documents. with this appeal, they could get a stay that allows them to stop the documents from being turned over, but it really sets off this legal battle about what is congress oversight ability. what is the ability of the white house and the president to stop these kinds of oversight activities. and this judge in his ruling made it very clear that impeachment is not the only mechanism for congress to go forward with some of these inquiries. i thi
readying fresh subpoenas for next week after tuesday s interrogation behind closed doors of andrew mccabe creating conflicts with previous witnesses testimony. the fbi resists this degree of transparency. they don t like answering questions in front of congress. but they have to. congress has a legitimate oversight interest in the answers to these questions. according to sources, mccabe told the committee he couldn t recall when he first learned the hillary clinton campaign and the democratic national committee paid for the anti-trump dossier funneled to the fbi in july of 2016 and which lawmakers believe was used to obtain fisa surveillance on carter page. investigator said dave obtained documents signed by mccabe indicating his awareness of the dossier s origins. i made a mistake using a private email. and the fbi investigated hillary clinton s private server, mccabe oversaw the probe.
but they have to. congress has an oversight interest in the answers to these questions. sandra: bruce ohr will be grilled today. as you point out the doj official demoted after the revelations about the undisclosed meetings with fusion gps, the firm behind the anti-trump dossier and the revelation that ohr s wife also was paid by that same firm. you know, when you look at the revelations of all of this, professor and the american people are asking questions, can we trust this mueller probe? is there an anti trump bias inside of our f.b.i.? and i just wonder where do you stand on the mueller probe as a whole today? i opposed the appointment of a special counsel until james comey was fired. at that point there was in my view merit to appointing someone for an independent investigation. i said then and i ve said throughout this process that i don t see evidence of a crime committed by president trump or
about that, this presents enough work for the oversight committee for seven days a week for the four years of the trump presidency. it will be a test, i hope he is serious. let s bear in mind, the conflicts do not start on inauguration day. ivanka trump was attending meetin meetings with an investor who is a major distributor of her shoes in japan. the whole thing is a series of systematic conflicts. and even if they had good faith, it would be a very hard problem to solve. it doesn t look like they have good faith. is there a possibility that republicans will see this at some point as something that is a public test for them? especially the jason chaffetzs, the people who have oversight interest in this? sure they will, when mr. gallup and mr. pugh tell them
the whole thing is a series of systematic conflicts. and even if they had good faith, it would be a very hard problem to solve. it doesn t look like they have good faith. is there a possibility that republicans will see this at some point as something that is a public test for them? especially the jason chaffetzs, the people who have oversight interest in this? sure they will, when mr. gallup and mr. pugh tell them the public is concerned. it is a test, not just of the people on capitol hill but the citizenry. this can either be one of the worst moments in american history or one of the best, depending on what we all do. david from, thank you very much for joining us. appreciate it. msnbc s coverage continues into the 11th hour with brian williams. that s next.