policing reform. do you argue that those policies, which are actually kind of standard republican policies are white nationalist? well, let me make it clear history, in 67, when richard nixon first started pandering to this racist element, it wasn t the first time in history, but then he called it the southern strategy, with kevin phillips, who was his adviser, and they decided how can we talk race without sounding like racists? and so they said state s rights. we re against state s rights, for states rights. we aren t really racist. the bottom line is those policies hurt black brown people and in many ways hurt poor white people because they elect people who do not really care about poor white people and working class white people. so the question is, if white nationalists have it on their websites and on their agendas, and say this is what they re supporting, and sessions or any other senator is supporting those policies, then yes, you are supporting the policies of white national
won t accept that easily. let me just go around the table and have everybody answer that question. i ll start with you, tara, can you attack the trump world without drawing at tacks ining donald trump? no, you cannot especially with the level of lack of discipline trump has right now, and you still, it doesn t matter, if you attack trump s world, you still hurt trump, even if you re promoting him at the same time. you may not hurt him with breitbart followers, but you hurt him with independents who are right leaning. same thing to you charlie sykes. is it possible to build an empire attacking everything around trump and avoid attacking trump himself? we re going to find out. look, donald trump is going to be very, very comfortable with the attacks you ll see on mitch mcconnell, the business community, paul ryan, other folks like that. the question is, both of them, can they ride the tiger without the tiger turning and eating them. we ll find that out. donald trump is very, very
know, survive the way fox news does on the basis of advertising revenue. there are a lot of different models these days, a lot of different types of media and bannon and breitbart with a lot of money from the mercers will be able to explore different things, maybe combine with sincla sinclair. there are a lot of great possibilities out there for them. to me, the sort of overarching political question here is, what is the audience for media that tries to target trump aides and people around trump while still promoting donald trump, and can you do that without undermining the trump presidency, drawing trump s anger, and creating a civil war within the republican party and the conservative movement, which certainly won t help trump get elected in 2020. so to me, that s the heart of the challenge here is steve bannon can try to say i m for trump. i just hate what his presidency is and i m going to go to war against it and the trump presidency is over, but trump
is going to have a limited viewership, but even now steve bannon is going to have an audience, because we re talking about him today, and our cable tv outlets are going to talk about breitbart that most of us didn t know anything about, outside the beltway, so the interesting part is, let s see what kind of juice steve is going to get outside. i agree with everybody on this, steve bannon is wicked smart. he s going to drive an agenda. the question is, is how powerful will that be beyond the coverage that he gets on cable tv and the coverage that we give him, how powerful will that be, and will mercer really pile a tremendous amount of money to try to compete against fox? again, i doubt that that will happen, but it s a good theory. and sinclair, the huge competit competitor. david corn i ask these questions. if you think about what breitbart did in addition to
david corn, white nationalists don t get attacked, putin doesn t get attacked. he tacks the people who question him or go after him so steve bannon can take a critical approach to the trump presidency, without being attacked back is a very, very difficult thing to see. i m going to come back to kurt on whether or not were interest trmp has a here of steve bannon. jason on the question of where donald trump sort of is centering core is. because the idea if you take out bannon and sweep them out somehow trump would be a different person, i wonder if you agree that that is the case or whether you think the core of donald trump and the core of steve bannon are the same. you can pull aour all the ca on the candy apple. trump is still trump. he hired these people because they reflektded his values.