investigate civil summary. and these were just like reporters requesting them. congress is going to be all over barr and all over mueller to release whatever materials they have. if that report is like a detailed road map of what he found, great. they can probably get underway with whatever they want to do more quickly, but even if it s not, i think they are going to scrutinize this investigation, just like we saw the hillary clinton e-mail investigation scrutinized. they re going to call him before congress, if they feel that s necessary. they re going to subpoena materials if they feel that s necessary. and they re going to get answers to what he found to help inform whatever it is that they want to do. and individual democratic lawmakers, mostly, have said that they plan on doing exactly that, especially if they re not getting all the information that they want from william barr. ana shechter, you re at the courthouse where roger stone is. there was a gag order in this case. what
tell whether someone tries to interfere in the justice department to end this investigation. you will be able to tell because there s oversight by congress and also because if they suddenly end the investigation, there are ongoing court cases in front of our judiciary. also, many of these cases have been moved over to career parts of the justice department from the prosecution. right. of president trump s lawyer. right. to the follow up on the russians. that goes to one of the reporting out. as we will continue. hopefully with your help later this week all the other cases. john carlin, professor, thank you both. the top official says jeff sessions may lack the authority over mueller. he wrote the rules on special counsel live on that important issue next. [woman 1] this.
sessions. we ll look for some details on that but it was strange. we ll bring it back on with you. thank you, kelly o donnell. i ve got chris matthews standing by, ari melber here, joe watkins. this is huge news. for more on this, let me bring ari in and joe and get some analysis about what s going on. ari, i guess the big question a lot of people have, and i don t know whether you re able to get us information on this, is does this remove rod rosenstein from overseeing the mueller investigation because the attorney general in theory doesn t have a conflict because he s not part of the investigation? in other words, is this a way to circumvent rosenstein and perhaps have more control over mueller? it would appear to do that under the rules as they are written because the reason that jeff sessions was always attacked by donald trump had nothing to do with immigration or sanctuary cities, it was the fact that he took the doj guidance that he had to recuse from russia because he was i
muell with mueller? how long it can be, what are the questions, what is it about? and giuliani specifically said, what did you say about flynn and why did you fire comey are two questions that would be off the table, which if you were going to ask about obstruction of justice, those are core questions, again, if obstruction of justice is important to mueller. if president trump refuses to sit down, do you think that mueller should subpoena him and take the risk of that subpoena being rejected? yes. i say you should test that. look, no person is above the law. we are a nation that triumphs the rule of law. the president is not above the rule of law. and a subpoena was issued to president clinton and they negotiated the terms of it. but the idea that giuliani and trump unilaterally get to keep things off the table that can t be asked, that goes to the very heart of the purpose of a criminal investigation. and i think you said it well, erin, those are very material subjects that must