situation in which he has to wait. and he didco he did the right choice. when i say cooperation, i don t mean necessarily that he was suggesting that his contribution is going to prove any collusion. we t know the outme o no, w don t nobody knows. just to be clear, do you think donald trump should consider a pardon for george papadopoulos? yes, as i said yesterday, i really wish, and i asked yesterday for a pardon. but this is all, obviously, my expectation, as a wife and as a lawyer, there is noardon as posed to being guilty. that s certainly the case. is it something that you it s interesting, we re here in the middle of pardon season. i appreciate you coming on. people who watch the show know, we have people on who have been involved in the mueller probe, you bring a very particular experience having gone through the interviews. is the potential pardon something you ve discussed with george or anyone affiliated with the trump team? no, absolutely not.