initially and now on the women s team. we are hearing for the first time about backlash from her teammates talking anonymously to outkick. clay thomas, the founder with us now to talk about it. welcome back. want to read one quote here. when the whole team is together, we have to be like oh my gosh, go leah, that s great, you are amazing. it is very fake, end quote. listen, you have the quotes and heard the story. what did you learn? well, first of all these women feel as if they can t speak out about what they see as a fundamental assault on the legitimacy on a sport they love. women s swimming. women who have spent their entire lives as they told our outkick staff to try to pursue swimming to the best of their ability. they ve been getting up early in the morning. parents are taking them as young kids and they ve advanced all the way to the point where they are members of the university of pennsylvania women s swimming team. they thought they had a chance