number two, we re talking about a government that has never been known, and notice the sarcasm in my voice, to misuse the data. the irs targeting of conservative and pro-israel groups which is still going on, by the way. so here the nsa the nra files an amicus brief because they re concerned that lawful gun owners whose data is being gobbled up by the nsa, but the expansion since 2009 under the prism program and the obama administration means that we have an out of control bureaucracy, and nsa that is not within the guidelines that were set forth for it to operate. bill: so you would argue that they have a legitimate case here, and it s not just out of paranoia, right? no. there s a legitimate case because of the actions that have happened. bill: tamara, does dave have a point here? well, he does, but unfortunately with his tea party views, he likes to mix things up this isn t a tea party issue. let me finish, david.