to bin laden and not to these others. there s potential for some fragmentation and some division in the next few months. i m fascinated by the logistics. you talk about the sheera council. when you think about a council, you think of a boardroom somewhere. you sit around a table and talk. when you look at the way bin laden was isolated, as we look at this video of him sitting in this near furnitureless room looking at videos of himself from news reports, and we know he was not able to communicate freely at all, and now the fact that u.s. intelligence will be following every move of these people and everything that we got from this treasure-trove of information, how does that disrupt their ability to communicate and figure out what they try to do next on the whole? yeah. there s no question. those guys are laying low right now. no matter what the cia has and doesn t have, you can just bet that zawahiri and the others will be worried about who will be crashing through their door
we look further into the coverage of bin laden. has america achieved its goal in afghanistan with his death? we ll get to that. in the meantime more than 350 people are waking up in memphis, tennessee, at a shl ter after forced to evacuate their homes from a rise of the mississippi river. a handful of homes in the northern part of the city are completely flooded and as many homes and businesses are flooded, the river is not expected to crest in memphis until late tomorrow. looking at all of this water, there s nowhere to put it. it s just sitting. they don t have nowhere totutt money. it has go somewhere. it s going flood our house up. jay gray is live for us once again. we ve been getting perspective of the deep waters. how much have you seen the situation change in the past 24 hours, jay? reporter: a lot, alex.
at any minute. it disrupts their ability to do anything quickly, even though they would like to be able to strike out and show they re still relevant, but there s no question they re going to be laying low and that the cia and others are going to be on their trail very hotly in the next few weeks. how much do you think al qaeda, joby has been fractured into these separate groups and does that weaken them on the whole, or make us more vulnerable to attack? it s been an interesting thing to figure out even over the last couple of years there s been evidence of fracturing. the last couple of times that zawahiri got and did one of his video things, he didn t mention bin laden at all, which was curious to a lot of us, wondering why he wouldn t bring up the leader at any point. there was already some indication the two were in different camps, and there are lots of number threes that have been killed over the last couple of years. there s really a question about how strong this core lead
complicity that we see in pakistan in bin laden s ability to hang out all these years right an hour from the seat of government and right near a military school, set cetera. but this is something that the administration really does not kur kur with. the idea that we would throw our hands in the air and cut off aid and try to find other partners in the war. as you mentioned, most of the terrorists are caught in pakistan, often populated areas. we need to continue to stay in pack stand we need to continue to hunt down terrorists in yemen. just because they harbor terrorists doesn t mean they re government terrorists. they re the hotbeds now for al qaeda, and this administration believes that we need to stay there. okay. let s get to a somewhat controversial topic there.
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