one of these threats, it s going to require them to go through that sort of process and analysis, very time consuming but very important and then what they do is disseminate it to state and local authorities who look to see if they can gather any information to corroborate or refute the intelligence being disseminated. fran, what do you make of the fact that bin laden was hiding in this compound living a, you know, his normal life as you can live in one spot and apparently unable to move from there, and yet, you know, the mythology around it was he was in a cave someplace, he had kizny disease, probably needed dialysis. you were part of an administration that eventually said you know what? he s on the run. and we re not worried about him anymore. we re after al qaeda. so how did that folklore get out there? well, part of that was there was very little intelligence,
uncatchable. and symbolology is very important in this movement. they use the media, they use the internet, they use symbols, they use music. and on top of all this is osama bin laden himself. so if the defense department likely can show that like the wizard of oz, pay no attention to that man behind the current, it could well stop the recruitment of these young, potential jihadis that could be a threat to america and a threat to the region. the man is dead, but the legend kind of remains. but isn t it more i mean how much of al qaeda do you think dies with osama bin laden? because we hear, you know, obviously we have a lot of other folks, number two, number one, that s out there, waiting to take over. so it s hard to believe that they have lost a recruitment
guy, dying of kidney disease on the run and looking entirely healthy with the exception of that picture? in many cases intelligence is based on best estimates, it s based on shreds of evidence, in some cases bad information. there was clearly in this case a bit of a difference in terms of what turned out to be true, but that s the intelligence officials doing the best they have with the best information they have at the moment. the remaining question is, because bin laden is dead, and we have all this information, is the capture of ayman al zawahri and others closer now? i think it depends on what we find on those thumb drives and those hard drives. if i was zawahri, if i was zarqawi, i would not be sleeping
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it s still too early, only a quarter past 3:00 in the morning here. too early to get any real reaction from people. i had a chance to speak to people over the past. one of the things that really struck me is that osama bin laden had not only loomed so large in the minds and imaginations of these people for such a long time, but he had really developed aurora of invincibility. people said to me they capitol even believe that he was dead because a, they had heard those stories before and they were untrue, but b, because they couldn t imagine it. they couldn t actually imagine him being killed. this is a man who had eluded capture for such a long time. and, of course, he very carefully cultivated that image as well but to see these latest videos, to see an older looking man, frail looking man sitting in that nondescript room watching himself on television sgs likely to puncture that image. it will underline the fact that