imagine for a moment that you re running al qaeda. that means you re spending a lot of time figuring out how to murder people. it also means you have kind of a hard job. because you re trying to manage this global terror network and you don t want the united states with its vast global policing and surveillance resources to be able to catch you. so if your job is running al qaeda, you have to be really, really careful about how you communicate with your employees. we know, for example, that osama bin laden didn t even use a cell phone. he used courier, paper messages, because he knew his communications could and very likely would be monitored. of course, some of his couriers apparently did use cell phones and that is part of what helped bring about his ultimate downfall. but let s say just for argument s sake you re heading up the new post-bin laden al qaeda and you re also terrible at your job. and so you re not at all concerned about your communications being monitored.
imagine for a moment that you re running al qaeda. that means you re spending a lot of time figuring out how to murder people. it also means you have kind of a hard job. because you re trying to manage this global terror network and you don t want the united states with its vast global policing and surveillance resources to be able to catch you. so if your job is running al qaeda, you have to be really, really careful about how you communicate with your employees. we know, for example, that osama bin laden didn t even use a cell phone. he used courier, paper messages, because he knew his communications could and very likely would be monitored. of course, some of his couriers apparently did use cell phones and that is part of what helped bring about his ultimate downfall. but let s say just for argument s sake you re heading up the new post-bin laden al qaeda and you re also terrible at your job. and so you re not at all concerned about your communications being monitored.
imagine for a moment that you re running al qaeda. that means you re spending a lot of time figuring out how to murder people. it also means you have kind of a hard job. because you re trying to manage this global terror network and you don t want the united states with its vast global policing and surveillance resources to be able to catch you. so if your job is running al qaeda, you have to be really, really careful about how you communicate with your employees. we know, for example, that osama bin laden didn t even use a cell phone. he used courier, paper messages, because he knew his communications could and very likely would be monitored. of course, some of his couriers apparently did use cell phones and that is part of what helped bring about his ultimate downfall. but let s say just for argument s sake you re heading up the new post-bin laden al qaeda and you re also terrible at your job. and so you re not at all concerned about your communications being monitored. let s say you
secret north korean plans to test launch a missile in response to a u.n. resolution. in 2010, army intelligence bradley manning liked hundreds of thousands of documents and in may of 2011, detailed information about the raid that killed osama bin laden leaked to reporters including the involvement of the famed seal team 6. do they damage our national security or is it already known? john bolton, senior fellow the enterprise institute joins us this morning as he does every sunday morning. good morning, ambassador. glad to be with you. eric: when dealing with the nsa program, do you think its massive invasion of american s privacy? it s entirely appropriate. the thing about the program under obama, if anything it build on the foundation that the bush
surveillance, i think is something that any terrorist would have suspected. i would be surprised that the idea that emails and phone calls are intercepted. we are long way from knowing how they pull that off and how they are able to sift through 3 billion phone calls a day. this is the reason that osama bin laden didn t conduct any business on the internet or by phones. it was all done by personal courier as we found very thankfully a couple years ago. it has dangers too, if you have a courier, you find bin laden. jamie: coming up, i ll ask if that is efficient use of national security resources to be looking through billions and billions. looking forward to the interview. good to see you. for chris s full interview