we are here every day, so when they do, it will be ready. joyce, thanks. joyce vance is a former attorney for the northern district of alabama. that s our show for tonight. time now for the last word with lawrence o donnell. lawrence, i think i ve eaten up half a minute of your show every night for the last tonight. so i think tomorrow night i will give you back a pile of it. orrow ni according to my clos 25 sections. i wasn t ready to go until you came anyway. so this is perfect. keep doing. it have a great show, my friend. the impeachment clause of the united states constitution seems to be headed to the supreme court if don trump s criminal defense lawyers can get it there. we re going to consider the impeachment clause tonight from two perspectives, first, a lawyer and law professor, andrew weissmann, and then, a historian, stanford jack greg of who is an expert on the impeachment clause. his book, original meanings, politics and the ideas in the making of the c
legitimate way possible to avoid deciding whether the former president is disqualified. there are very, very few if any off-ramps that will allow the supreme court to avoid a decision in this case. indeed, i believe that there are none. section three at the 14th amendment simply could not be any clearer, that the former president is disqualified from the presidency. as we continue tonight s combined law school class and history class, we re joined now by david white, professor of american history and african american studies. he won the pulitzer prize in history for his book, frederick douglass, profit of freedom. he s also the author of several other books including race and reunion in the civil war, in america memory. and eric phoner joins us,
liable and subject to indictment, trial, judgment, and punishment, according to law. appeals court judge michelle childs told on trump s lawyer that the impeachment clause does not explicitly say what donald trump s lawyer claimed it says. you re not giving me anything that says explicitly in the references that you cite. only the party convicted shall be subject to indictment, trial, judgment, punishment into law. that s if you take the negative inference, correct? the language supports from the very beginning that is a natural ordinary meaning of the impeachment judgment clause. genius discussion now is jack rakove, professor of history and american studies and professor of political science at stanford university. he won the pulitzer prize in history for the book original meanings, politics and ideas in the making of the constitution.
off-ramps that will allow the supreme court to avoid a decision in this case. indeed, i believe that there are none. section three at the 14th amendment simply could not be any clearer, that the former president is disqualified from the presidency. as we continue tonight s combined law school class and history class, we re joined now by david white, professor of american history and african american studies. he won the pulitzer prize in history for his book, frederick douglass, profit of freedom. he s also the author of several other books including race and reunion in the civil war, in america memory. and eric phoner joins us, columbia university history professor, when the pulitzer prize choice for his books, reconstruction, americans unfinished revolution and the fiery trial. and american slavery. thank you both for joining this discussion tonight. professor foner, let me begin with you, this case is going to the supreme court. we all watched the supreme court justices and their c
they don t get a chance to do that very often. i am not so sure that they are that anxious to have an off ramp, like my colleagues here. i have to squeeze in a final break here. i want to get your answer to that same question on the finding officer and insurrection after this commercial break. we ll be right back. that s the value of ownership. i could ve waited to tell my doctor my heart was racing just making spaghetti. but i didn t wait. i could ve delayed telling my doctor i was short of breath just reading a book. but i didn t wait. they told their doctors. and found out they had. atrial fibrillation. a condition which makes it about five times more likely to have a stroke.