shortly after he arrived in the role. - i was very fortunate to find something that i can do that i have some natural talent for and that engages my interests and that i enjoy. i enjoy working as a lawyer. - there s probably nothing more challenging to a up-and-coming litigator than trying cases. you are constantly on display. you are constantly meeting the arguments of very good defense lawyers. it s a nonstop day-to-day interaction in which you are constantly under assault. and rudy was good at that. i think that s what rudy wanted. he s not afraid of the fire. he s not afraid of the fire today. - we have to do securities fraud because we have two stock markets here in new york. we have to do drug work because we have a big drug problem. and we have to do organized crime work because we have five organized crime families that have decided, since the turn of the century, to locate themselves here in new york and have acquired a tremendous amount of political power, economic power, and
prosecutors want to give her ownership of as they prosecute this case. now, both of them in the federal investigation around january 6th are co-conspirators, and we haven t seen what will happen with them. there has been, there have been quite a lot of people on tender hooks wondering are these two people going to face some sort of fallout from the federal system, too, as that investigation clearly continues on. as you reference there, rico, the racketeer influence and corruptions act which rudy giuliani used quite frequently to prosecute organized crime families there. now he has walked just moments ago, as we saw there, into that jail house in fulton county jail to surrender himself to face those charges. i believe we have ellie honig
that were more or less organized. - so i said, what if i want to call another garbage guy? and this guy said, try it. - this was just widely accepted as the way things were and not something to tamper with. - the hierarchy of the cosa nostra the boss, the underboss were well insulated from most criminal activities. so it was the low-level street guys that were doing the work. they were the ones that took the rap. and you had plenty behind them to take their spot. so law enforcement was handcuffed, in many respects. - new york has five organized crime families. and they have been permitted to grow and grow and grow and grow. - when rudy took over the office and got involved in this case, he was very enthusiastic about it, very engaging, anxious to get the case going. - my great-grandfather, when he was an immigrant in brooklyn and the black hand at that time wanted him to pay protection money to them, when people say there is no mafia and these organizations don t exist,
- i was very fortunate to find something that i can do that i have some natural talent for and that engages my interests and that i enjoy. i enjoy working as a lawyer. - there s probably nothing more challenging to a up-and-coming litigator than trying cases. you are constantly on display. you are constantly meeting the arguments of very good defense lawyers. it s a nonstop day-to-day interaction in which you are constantly under assault. and rudy was good at that. i think that s what rudy wanted. he s not afraid of the fire. he s not afraid of the fire today. - we have to do securities fraud because we have two stock markets here in new york. we have to do drug work because we have a big drug problem. and we have to do organized crime work because we have five organized crime families that have decided, since the turn of the century, to locate themselves here in new york and have acquired a tremendous amount of political power, economic power, and all sorts of other kinds of power.
election interference case. one codefendant, his former attorney, rudy giuliani. tomorrow night at 8:00 p.m. eastern, don t miss the cnn original series, giuliani: what happened to america s mayor. here s a preview. what happened to rudy giuliani? it is almost unthinkable. a theme that runs through his life is that he s got to be at the center of the action. rudy s got to be the star. rudy really wanted to make big cases. we sure can deliver a message, which is, you re going to go to prison. new york has five organized crime families and they have been permitted to grow and grow and grow and grow. giuliani was taking on the mafia. i plane crashed into one of the twin towers. a terrible tragedy. the best way we re going to get through this is we remain calm. the number of casualties will be more than any of us can bear ultimately. those of us who are here have to defend freedom by going through our lives unafraid.