a presidential historian and author john meacham joins me live to discuss the state of our democracy today. the beginning of the end, we will break down what we can expect from closing arguments and jury instructions and trumps hush money election interference trial this week. and the chances that trump will be the first former president convicted of a felony and a look at what happens when trump steps out of the magna bubble. the libertarian party should nominate trump for president of the united states. whoa! i am jonathan capehart, this is the sunday show. the tomorrow is memorial day , a day to remember our military service members who made the ultimate sacrifice for this country. according to historian david blight, black americans were the first to honor fallen soldiers. black writes that in may, 1865, the black community in charleston, south carolina held a parade for a union soldiers killed in the war and, quote, converted confederate real men into their own
Was the white house visit in return for the 2016 dnc server and burisma investigation. When you heard burisma, you did not see that as code for biden, the bidens . I did not. When did you even know that . Is it your testimony that you only realized that burisma included the bidens when the readout came out . No, i really dont recall the date. It was very late in the game, though. September . I dont recall the date. So if i told you that the Legal Definition of bribery was an event of offering, giving, soliciting or receiving of any item of value as a means of influencing an action of an individual holding a public or legal duty, do you believe that not only was it quid pro quo, but it was bribery . Im not a lawyer and im not going to characterize what
something was or wasnt legally. You also said in your Opening Statement that Secretary Perry and yourself as well as Ambassador Volker worked with giuliani on the ukraine matter at Express Direction of the president , is that right . That
Return for the 2016 dnc server and burisma investigation. When you heard burisma, you didnt see it as code for biden, the bidens . I did not. When did you know that. Your testimony saying that burisma included the bidens when the readout came out. My testimony wasnt specific with regards to the date. September . I dont recall the date. If i told you that the Legal Definition of bribery was an event of offering, giving, soliciting or receiving of any item of value and the means of influencing an action of an individual holding a public or legal duty. Do you believe that not only was it quid pro quo but it was bribery. Not a lawyer and im not going to characterize what
something was or wasnt legally. You also said in your Opening Statement that Secretary Perry and yourself, as well as Ambassador Volker worked with giuliani on the ukraine matter, and express direction of the president. Is that right . You also go on to say that we did not want to work with giuliani, simply put we played t