architects, engineers. well, i m the fifth out of six so my parents didn t even know my name. the first born was my brother, tom. he s a nuclear physicist. then there s me, fifth down the line. dr. lehman, i need help. let s go look at some famous people who were first born. look at this list. they become presidents, a lot of them. oh, yes, more than 53% of our presidents are first born or on only born. what about someone like mike? fifth out of six. when you re second born, does the same thing carry over, second, third, fourth, fifth? does it role down the line that way? most people look at birth order as order didnal. it s not, it s functional. you could have four daughters and a son and the son could be in the middle. he s a functional first born. to help mike, let me say something that mike has never heard in his entire life.