individuals but the system does not appear to have fundamentally changed and you re right, wherever we see progress, we see a step backwards. president karzai is upset one of his top associates was indicted by the task force and took back control. we have to see where this goes next. i would say yes, there are a few hopeful signs but not nearly enough to add up to a trend. shepard: do you think we know yet whether this unthinkable natural disaster in pakistan with 20 million people homeless and the threat of disease isn t going to play a part in all this later? i don t know if we know yet. you re right. a lot of things are changing in pakistan. we have the opportunity to build a new relationship. this is where i give people credit. it takes time to build trust. the trust we lost over many decades of the pakistanis and
u.s., we ve always been with each other for a year and then sort of betraying each other. it s back and forth for several decade and it will take a while. this kind of tragedy in a sense provides in its sad way an opportunity for the united states to show pakistansys we care of. shepard: thank you. the former 0 top u.s. commander in afghanistan, general mack mcchrystal is pursuing a job in education, teaching a graduate level course on leadership in yale. the university named him a senior fellow at the school s jackson institute for global affairs. you ll remember general mcchrystal resigned in june over some disparaging comments as they were viewed that he made to the staff of rolling stone magazine. in his new job mcchrystal said, when speaking of had, i
where they laid the groundwork. shib sent money to the hijackers and to moussaoui, who was a convicted al qaeda conspirator. he was never able to get a visa so never entered the country and he got a moniker of being the so-called 20th hijacker in the plot. shepard: you ve seen him in court, right? i ve seen him in court three or four times. shib doesn t always show up to court at guantanamo bay while they were having hearings in part because his lawyer argued he s mentally ill or he s insane. what his lawyer testified in one of the hearings was that shib believes his bed and cell are vibrating and it is done by the u.s. military and his attorney used that as evidence he s not fit to stand trial.
killed her. he had pleaded not guilty. with us a close friend of julissa, mark pen. i m guessing this is a tough day. a day of mixed emotions. shepard: tell us about those. emotions are not like thoughts. you think they run in a pattern but they go willy-nilly. i was awakened by the press trying to get information from me and that s how i found out. it was a huge burden lifted from my shoulders. the pressure of this situation came on a little bit at a time and in one second it lifted. i breathed a sigh of relief at least this chapter it closed. then i went to sleep and this morning i woke up angry and mad and disappointed that justice has been nipped, hasn t been served. justice has been cut off by a