We will hear argument this morning in case 23939. Trump versus the United States. Reporter tonight, new testimony of the alleged criminal conspiracy to help elect donald trump. Trump turned to the business at hand and asked david pecker how is our girl. As his argument for absolute immunity finally goes before the Supreme Court. This court has never recognized absolute criminal immunity for any public official. A private attorney to spearhead his challenges to the election results. What was up with the pardon for president nixon . If everybody thought that president s couldnt be prosecuted what was that about . If it fails completely it is because we have destroyed our democracy on our own, isnt it . Tonight, Rachel Maddow, nicole wallace, joy reed, chris liz. Lawrence odonnell, lisa ruben all here as msnbcs special Coverage Of Trump On Trial begins now. Who has the time . Who has the time . You are telling me that simultaneously, we have nearly three hours of Oral Argument at the Unit
Dont go anywhere. I will be back with Rachel Maddow and the whole gang for special Coverage Of Trump On Trial that starts right now. The expresident of the United States. Two american courtrooms. Facing Criminal Trial in one. I will go in now and sit. And making a desperate case to avoid justice in the other. We will hear arguments this morning in trump versus the United States. Tonight, new testimony of the alleged criminal conspiracy to help elect donald trump. Reporter trump turned to the business at hand and asked david pecker, how is our girl . As his argument for absolute immunity finally goes before the Supreme Court. This court has never recognized absolute criminal immunity for any public official. A private attorney who was willing to spread false claims of Election Fraud what was up with the pardon for president nixon . If everybody thought president s couldnt be prosecuted, what was that about . If it fails completely it is because we have destroyed our democracy. Tonight,
There is a possibility they may see some opportunity for some immunity for some president ial decisions. If they decide it that way, it may have to go back down to the District Court which could cause further delay. I appreciate you not being sidetracked by somebody who apparently wants to scream louder than anybody else. Catherine, the lower courts have been unanimous that trump cannot claim immunity. Does that tell you something . I cant imagine theyre going to say a former president has absolute immunity for criminal acts. What will be a win for donald trump is if theyre saying were sending it back to judge chutkan to determine which, if any he would have immunity for and which he would not. Thats a win because that would delay the trial, which is already delayed. So what of course obviously jack smith and Special Counsel is hoping for, a majority of the court will just say, no, absolute immunity from Criminal Prosecution for a former president and clearly jack smith would say this
Check abuses of power especially the use of official power for private gain. Here the Executive Branch is enforcing congressional statutes and seeking accountability for petitioners alleged misuse of official power to subvert democracy. That is a compelling public interest. In response, petitioner raises concerns about potential abuses. But established legal safeguards provide layers of protections with the Article Iii Courts providing the ultimate check. The existing system is a carefully balanced framework. It protects the president but not at the high constitutional cost of blanket criminal immunity. That has been the understanding of every president from the framing through watergate and up to today. This court should preserve it. I welcome the courts questions. Does the president have immunity or are you saying there is no immunity even for official acts . Yes, justice thomas. But i think it is important to put in perspective the position that we are offering the court today. The
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