but you can get guidance and that, i think, is what really helped. but is that why you wrote it as a novel? yes. i wrote it as a novel because everyone has their own spin. the white house has its own spin, the agency has its own spin, the seals have their own spin at this point. how do you step back and take a look and try to make a whole graphic picture of an event that isn t going to be declassified for 15 or 20 years? all right, so you point to a few people that really should get some credit. when it comes to the administration, leon panetta, he s the one that says we have to get guys on the ground there, this is it. we have to make this operation happen and the c.i.a. believes in him. yes, the c.i.a. believes in him because he stands up for them. there was loyalty down the chain of command as well as up the chain of command and panetta, i was told and i think reliably was involved on a daily basis with this hunt for bin laden, especially in the last 10 months of the hunt.
you i heard about a couple of weeks ago. the whole operation itself, of course he knew about that months and months earlier. issa wasn t buying it. congressman smith s statement is that there is a question about whether mr. holder is misleading congress, the implication being that it was willful, the implication being that it was the commission of perjury, and there is such a crime. megyn: how do you get there? how do you prove perjury or obstruction of justice against the attorney general. reporter: each of them have a potential five year potential sentence. you take the question and the answer together and you know as a great, great lawyer, as well as a great anchor it s the question answered together it s not the answer alone. then you take objective evidence and you put them side-by-side, and then a grand jury makes a determination whether to indict a person with regard to that, and then a jury, if it goes to trial makes a determination about whether that person was willfully a
do the arrest. nobody came, so what was the purpose of it? you know, maybe it was just to make the a tf agent look bad. at least there s one quote from people within the office that said they wanted to dirty up the agent in a sense like you said in your letter. they were threatening him. did he want a job at the atf or a lower paying job with the sheriff? it s all it s all a matter of intimidation and not wanting to have anything to do with the bad judgment that was made up here in washington, dc. greta: which is actually two issues. one is the operation itself, but as i look through these letters, it looks like it goes right up the chain. i m curious. two things. one is how high up in the justice department does this go? number two, is the justice department really cooperating with you when i see the letter from the assistant attorney general and they re telling lies. i don t see that as cooperation. not only that, since i had
do the arrest. nobody came, so what was the purpose of it? you know, maybe it was just to make the a tf agent look bad. at least there s one quote from people within the office that said they wanted to dirty up the agent in a sense like you said in your letter. they were threatening him. did he want a job at the atf or a lower paying job with the sheriff? it s all it s all a matter of intimidation and not wanting to have anything to do with the bad judgment that was made up here in washington, dc. greta: which is actually two issues. one is the operation itself, but as i look through these letters, it looks like it goes right up the chain. i m curious. two things. one is how high up in the justice department does this go? number two, is the justice department really cooperating with you when i see the letter from the assistant attorney general and they re telling lies. i don t see that as cooperation.
correspondent is in new york to tell us of the bonus mission. jonathan: it is involving first of all, putting together a group of weapons, ammunition, money, survival supplies, and then breaking out of prison and the operation itself, according to the manifesto, consists of the assassination of three to five primary category b traders, and prior to the arrest, he must acquire at least basic intelligence on his targets, picture, address, full name, so he may execute his operation in a timely and professional manner, the three to five executions combined should take no longer than one to three hours. and given that this was planned to be a break out from prison and then the assassinations, one could assume the police are acting on the basis he might yet try to do this. shepard: how did he plan to choose the victims, do we know, in the bonus, operation.