obscure characters and that s one of my great loves and passions. we spoke on this weird wavelength where other people were left out as we discussed the finer points of jesse white. the last time i talked to gilbert he phoned me to have a discussion about irwin c. watson. he was a chitland circuit comic from the 1950s. he was an opening act for james background. gilbert phoned me. there were three levels to gilbert s voice. there was the famous loud, obnoxious screamer or that he emulated when he did the parrot in aladdin. then there was a scaled down version of that same voice, more controversial conversational but had the same nuances. then there was a third voice that the public never heard which i was honored to hear which was he would phone me and say, hey, cliff, it s gilbert. had a question for you about irwin c. watson. that s exactly what he sounded like. he really only spoke in his
interest. that very van was found among the belongings. cnn s jason carroll is live on the scene in brooklyn. jason, it has been a chaotic 20 hours or so. tell us what the latest is. reporter: well, it s fair to say at this point they are actively looking at a man identified as a person of interest. frank james. 62 years old. investigators say some of the items found here at the scene are connected to james including those keys to that u-haul rental van. u-haul linked. just a quick recap of what happened out here yesterday. the shooter wearing an orange and green construction vest.
this? it was slightly confusing yesterday. let me tell you what the nypd is doing. it may be that there is a disconnect between some of the evidence they have in particular pictures and what james looks like. he may just be a friend, helping out whoever the shooter was. the second reason why they did that is there is no benefit to that as well. now they re after my guy. they don t know what they re doing. they re being very careful until they can put a case together and come out to the public and find james and say, this is our guy. the pictures align with what we know about james. the fact that they re already searching in social media and have concerns about the threats and ramblings suggest that they re pretty focused on james
as for james, police are very interested in his social media posts or posts linked to james he talked about homelessness, new york city and new york city s mayor, eric adams. i ve been sifting through some of those social media posts myself trying to make sense of who this person of interest is and what he was talking about. there s not a thread to draw through. just me anderings. joining me is julia cayem. juliet, there s a person of interest. no one is identified as a suspect. nypd being very careful not calling this man a suspect. what does that tell you about