we talked about that as a split screen but that will be one of the stories next week. you re going to have the president try to make a play on the international stage. you re going to have michael cohen giving this open public testimony. what are you substantively listening for next week? it s not so much what i hear from cohen. it s going to be the questions from the democrats. you have that new group of freshman congressman who were really trying to make a name for themselves. are they just going to ask about 2015? or are they going to expose people doing investigation based on things that cohen is saying. let s not forget that cohen s real importance is not just that he was trump s fixer but he knows where all the bodies are buried and other crimes this president is engaged in. and engaged in by trump s associates and his family.
descriptions and moments can have enormous power. when james comey testimony, what do people remember so vividly? i was hiding in the curtain. the curtain was blue and i was wearing blue. we all remember these little moments of recollection. we re not going to get game changing bomb shells from cohen in my estimation. you re going to get a fair if i have will help shape the public s opinion and understanding of what s happening here. that will be a very powerful thing. mimi, you know how this works. i m guessing the republican members will go after this witness and call him a liar and they re going to call him a felon and what do you think he says? he says absolutely. i ve been lying for ten years for donald trump. that s what he should say. does that make him an forgetive witness? absolutely. the best cooperators that i ever saw in trial were the ones who admitted who they had been. they owned it.
they didn t fight it. that s because the whole reason they re there to testify, to give information, is because of who they were before. because of the fact they committed crimes. that doesn t mean they re not capable of telling the truth now. there has to be other evidence supporting that. but michael cohen, if he s prepared well, which he should be. that is a legitimate they know for a witness to do. he should own it and get on that stand and not fight the fact that he has been a liar and a criminal. but who has he done that with and for? and that s the part that will be the most intriguing. how does this work? does mueller send over a list to the chairman of the committee and say, here s 15 areas i would really appreciate you avoiding in open public testimony. they re highly sensitive and i can t say any more than that? more or less.
questions. he won t be, i assume he will get some kind of immunity in exchange for his testimony. so there is very little reason to not tell the truth now. so there is all sorts of new conduct we can learn about. so jeremy bash, you have looked at important testimony. let s assume, and i don t know if this is correct, there is not a question that could be asked in this hearing that hasn t already been asked and answered by the feds. provided we re right there, what does the house need to glean from this? what are they going to do with what they sxlern what we all see said on hive television? first, i think they ll be interested in a couple areas. they ll be interested in the financial ties between the trump foundation and the russian federation. specifically the moscow deal which michael cohen has said
i personally suspect the key indicators will not be the shutdown because that s going to end, but it will be at what point some fair number of republicans in congress turn against him, ala the republicans against nixon, i think that s first and foremost number one, and then how incriminating, if at all, how incriminating is the mueller report? a lot of people join you in wait to see those republicans. eugene, i can give you 30 seconds. will we look to february 7th, cohen s testimony day, as perhaps the most consequential thus. well, it s sort of a red letter episode in this long-running reality television show that we call our lives these days. a show, by the way, that has jumped the shark several times, but i think february 7th will be an important day. you know, even if michael cohen were not to release or to disclose new a lot of new